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August 2016

 Comments for Sunday, August 28, 2016, thru Wednesday, August 31, 2016: August 31, 2016 - Wow!  I just discovered something that I wouldn't have believed if someone else had told me about it and I hadn't discovered it myself. It appears I have to learn a typesetter programming language in order to submit papers to many different "specialized scientific journals."  The program you need is called "RevTEX 4.1," but it is spelled with the second E printed lower than the other letters.  Here's part of some instructions for submitting an article: As the articles for the [magazine] will be available online in diff erent formats – one of these is full-text-searchable hyper-text – we strongly suggest you strictly obey the LATEX conventions. The [magazine] document class was derived from the LATEX2" article.cls based on TEX version 3.141 and LATEX2". You may use it with the LaTeX engine or the pdfLATEX engine. Be sure that the LaTeX version is at least the 2007 version. Hence formulas and text are typed using the standard LATEX2" commands. The standard sectioning commands are also kept. Using aa.cls with other versions or implementations may cause difficulties. If this is the case, please contact us and we will try to help you. But that's not how many of the words actually look in the instructions.  Here are how the phrases highlighted above in red actually look: I wasn't aware of any of this as I went through the various steps to submit my article to one of the journals.   One of the very last steps was to submit your pdf file or files.  Then it unexpectedly asked for two different pdf files, the first in 1-column RevTEX format for readers and viewers, and the other in 2-column RevTEX format for printing.  Huh? I turns out that the pdf files have to be as they would look if they were already typeset and printed in the journal.  The headings and sub-headings have to be in the right print format, and so do pictures and charts and mathematical formulas and everything else.  I decided to look around for another "specialized journal" that might be better suited for my article.  I found one that seemed perfect, but it, too, requires that articles be submitted in RevTEX format. Further reading and research showed me that this is the format used on the arXiv.org print archive.  It's similar to the viXra.org archive where I put my pdf articles, except for the fact that on arXiv.org, the files look typeset and ready for printing.  (Click HERE for an example.)  Interestingly, viXra.org and arXiv.org are both owned and run by Cornell University. I learn something new every day.  And it now looks like I'm going to have to learn how to use RevTEX 4.1.  The problem with that is: The instructions seem to assume that you already know all the basics.  I don't.   Groan! There's a sample RevTEX coded article at the link HERE.  Here's some of what it looks like: \begin{document} \title{Introduction to \LaTeX} \author{Harvey Gould} \affiliation{Clark University, Department of Physics, Worcester, MA 01610} \affiliation{Boston University, Department of Physics, Boston, MA 02215} \date{16 June 2013} \begin{abstract} We give a brief introduction to the use of \LaTeX\ in the context of REVTeX~4.1. \end{abstract} \maketitle \section{Introduction} \LaTeX\ looks more difficult than it is. It is almost as easy as $\pi$. See how easy it is to make special symbols such as $\alpha$, $\beta$, $\gamma$, One positive note:  This should make an interesting chapter in the book about all this that I'm planning to write some day. CRAP!!!!!  I downloaded RevTEX 4.1 and then discovered that it can't do anything without some other "required" packages that must also be downloaded.  It's going to take me some time to figure it all out.  As I said, all the instructions seem to assume that you already know something I do not know. August 30, 2016 (B) - I just received a rejection email from the science journal that was reviewing my article on Time Dilated Light.  They wrote: It is [our] policy to return a substantial proportion of manuscripts without sending them to referees, so that they may be sent elsewhere without delay. Decisions of this kind are made by the editorial staff when it appears that papers are unlikely to succeed in the competition for limited space. In the present case, while your findings may well prove stimulating to others' thinking about such questions, I regret that we are unable to conclude that the work provides the sort of firm advance in general understanding that would warrant publication in [our magazine]. We therefore feel that the paper would find a more suitable outlet in a specialist journal. That doesn't seem to be a form letter response.  It seems like they are actually trying to be helpful. A specialist journal?  What science journal specializes in the subjects of light and time dilation?  I guess I'll have to do some research. Aargh!!  The first search I performed found a Frontiers in Psychology paper titled "Time dilation induced by object motion is based on spatiotopic but not retinotopic positions."  It says time dilation is just an illusion.  However, it is clearly about some kind of psychological issue, not about physics. Still searching ..... August 30, 2016 (A) - I awoke this morning thinking I should go back and modify my Sunday "A" comment to make it less confrontational and insulting.  I just did so.  I removed all uses of the word "crap" and replaced it with "nonsense."  I also added a comment about how Professor Greene interrupted his course several times to explain to his students that if what he was saying didn't seem to make any sense, they should take the mathematics-based version of the course.  Then it would make sense. Sure.  Why not?  In mathematics, apparently, "garbage in, garbage out" is perfectly acceptable.  The only thing that is important is that the math works. August 29, 2016 - Hmm.  My "B" comment yesterday got me interested in "light clocks," so I researched the subject a bit this morning.  I found a video that has so many screwball things wrong with it that I won't bother to list them. What was more interesting to me was the first comment following the video.  It was posted a year ago by "Galileo Galilei," who makes several interesting points, some correct, some incorrect. If a light clock is moving in the same direction light is moving, instead of perpendicular to the movement of the light, the mirrors will not move out of the way.  However, a light clock moving that way will also not show velocity Time Dilation.  But if you add acceleration, it will show the equivalent of gravitational Time Dilation.      More interesting than that, is the valid point he makes in this part of his comment: Albert Einstein also stated that time dilation can be due to an increase of gravity (according to General Relativity). It is evident, however, that a stationary light clock would measure the same time on Jupiter’s surface as it was placed on Earth’s surface (despite the stronger gravity of Jupiter). In both cases, the photon or light beam moves up and down in a vertical direction (perpendicular to the planet surface) at the same constant speed. He's right.  A light clock that uses a universal fixed speed of light would tick at the same rate on Jupiter as it would on Earth or in empty space. That would disprove Einstein's theory of general relativity.  According to Einstein, it should tick more slowly on Jupiter where the gravity is stronger, as any other type of clock would.   It's another example to show that the way physics is being taught in schools today is wrong and can be proven wrong.  And it also helps (a little bit) to confirm my theory. August 28, 2016 (B) - Hmm.  I learn something new every day.  This morning, in an argument about Time Dilated Light on my "Time and Time Dilation" Facebook group, I wanted to illustrate that moving a mirror will not magically cause the light bouncing off the mirror to follow along - as Professor Greene implied in his physics course (see my "A" comment).  I found this image:   It was on a web page titled "The Sagnac Effect: Does it Contradict Relativity?"  The article on the page begins with this: A number of authors have suggested that the Sagnac effect contradicts the original postulates of Special Relativity, since the postulate of the constancy of the speed of light is violated in rotating systems. So, naturally I had to research "the Sagnac effect."  What I found was that the Sagnac effect does indeed cause problems with Special Relativity IF you interpret Special Relativity the way most scientists seem to do, as stating or proving that "the speed of light is a universal constant." If you interpret Special Relativity the way I do, that the speed of light is determined by the time dilation factors affecting the atom that emitted the light, the Sagnac effect is no problem.  It seems to explain the Sagnac effect very nicely. It also makes me wish I had included a comment to that effect in my paper on Time Dilated Light.  It would be a good attention getter. August 28, 2016 (A) - The "change in tactics" that I attempted on Wednesday is still pending.  Essentially, the change was to write a different kind of article about Time Dilated Light, an article intended for the "general reader."  It would only explain the problem, not the solution.  The "problem" is that the speed of light is being incorrectly viewed by mathematicians as a "universal constant," a fixed speed per second.  Meanwhile, scientists are demonstrating that the length of a second is different everywhere, depending upon your altitude and velocity.  I submitted the short article (just 3 pages) to a popular science magazine, and I'm awaiting a response.  As it turns out, the person who reviews such proposed articles was on vacation last week, but he is expected to return tomorrow.  And, as it also turns out, I know a reporter who works for the company that owns the magazine.  That might make it a little more difficult to simply ignore my article. On Friday, I decided that there would be no harm in also submitting the article to another "peer-reviewed" science journal.  I created a new version of the article, shortening it by 1 page to 7 pages, and I changed a few things to hopefully get the point across at the very beginning that my paper agrees with Einstein.  I am not disputing Einstein.  I removed everything about Einstein's theory being "principled" while mine is "constructive," since that can easily be misinterpreted to imply that I was disputing Einstein.  I submitted the article on Friday.  (The new version will not be placed on ViXra.org.) Meanwhile, I've been thinking more about writing a book with a title something like "Time Dilated Light - The Forbidden Theory." I'll undoubtedly have to self-publish it, but I'm now an expert on self-publishing, so that won't be a problem.  And, it will be many months before it is ready, so I'll have plenty of time to try the peer review route at least one more time if the current attempt is rejected, and I'll have time to submit the "popular science" article elsewhere, if the people who currently have it reject it.  When I did research to find out where the whole subject of Time Dilated Light first came to me, I found that the first mention I ever made of "Time Dilation" was on my old web site, in a comment I wrote on March 16, 2014.  Here it is: -------------------- March 16, 2014 (B) - Wow!  I did a LOT of very heavy thinking last week.  It kept me from just sitting around waiting for a response to my query letters to literary agents.  I completed the course on Space, Time & Einstein at the WorldScienceU.com site.  The basic principles of time dilation and the constancy of the speed of light are very familiar to me and required learning nothing new.  I think I fully understand them.  Here's one of the comments I wrote explaining my view of time dilation: I think I understand time dilation okay. If I'm on a rocket ship traveling near the speed of light, where time is slowed down to 1/10th what it is back on earth, everything will still SEEM normal aboard the ship. The clock will seem to keep normal time. I'll still need a haircut every month (more or less). If a woman aboard gets pregnant, she'll still have a 9 month gestation period. AND, if I had a magical "simultaneous viewer" device aboard that could show me the eastern horizon back on earth as it was happening at MY time rate, I'd see the sun rise every 2 hours and 24 minutes. AND, if the people back on earth also had a magical "simultaneous viewer," the parents of the pregnant woman aboard would have to wait 90 months for the child to gestate and be born. And, if they could see the clock we have aboard the spaceship, they'd see it was moving at 1/10th the rate of the clocks they have. However, there was one video (Module #8) that contained a section that was really puzzling for me, and, evidently, also very puzzling for a lot of other students.  So, I played it over and over until I could spot the exact sentence where Professor Greene lost me.  Then I looked at all the comments by the other students to see if any of them could clarify anything.  (My outdated computer software prevents me from getting any direct feedback from Professor Greene.)  Eventually, I realized the problem was all the result of a confusing choice of words used by Prof. Greene.  Am I right?  I dunno.  But, I've finished the only course I see of interest.  I'll just check the student comments from time to time to see if anyone clarifies anything further for me.  -----------------------     A week later, I created a web page titled "Time Dilation - As I Understand It." But, yesterday I couldn't recall exactly what it was about Professor Brian Greene's lecture on "The Reality of Past, Present and Future" (Module #8) that bothered me so much.  So, I watched part of that lecture over again. I soon realized what it was that bothered me back then.  Prof. Greene (who teaches at Columbia University in New York City) was breaking time down into "quanta," i.e., into moments like frames of a movie.  And he was viewing time as a mathematician would view time.  Plus, the lecture concludes with Professor Greene saying that, "What this collectively tells us is that the traditional way we think about reality - the present is real, the past is gone, the future is yet to be - that is without any real basis in physics.  What we are really learning from these ideas is that the past, the present and the future are all equally real." If you believe that, then you can also argue that everything we see may be equally unreal - from a mathematician's point of view. Looking over the course schedule yesterday, I noticed that Module #3 was titled "The Speed of Light."   So, I watched it again.  Wow!  It's total nonsense!    Professor Greene explains that the fact that the velocity of the light emitting object (when it is coming toward you or going away from you) cannot be added to or subtracted from the speed of light you perceive is proof that the speed of light is a "universal constant."  It proves no such thing!  It is simply proof that the direction an object is moving does not affect the speed of light coming from the object.  I couldn't remember any of that from when I took the course in early 2014.  Evidently, it had no significance to me then.  Now I see it is just plain wrong. But there was even more nonsense to come.  I then watched the lecture on "Time In Motion" (Module #5), which is about Time Dilation.  In the screen capture below, he is explaining how the stationary clock by his hand runs faster than the moving clock off to his right because light bounces off mirrors more slowly when the mirrors are moving while light is being used to measure time.  It's total nonsense, and it is also a demonstration that has very little to do with Time Dilation or reality!  He was teaching his students that Time Dilation is just "an optical illusion."  He didn't use that term, of course.  He was carefully explaining how a stationary person will view an object as moving while a moving person will view the stationary person as moving.  Furthermore, it is a totally wrong and silly demonstration.  It's twisting the facts to rationalize a belief!  In reality, light would not bounce at angles between moving mirrors, light would move in a straight line and the mirrors would simply move out of the path of the bouncing light! It would have been better if Prof. Greene had used the explanation of how a ball is perceived to move if a child on a jet plane tosses it up and down as the plane moves at 500 miles per hour.  The child will see the ball going straight up and straight down, while some imaginary viewer on the ground will see the ball travel in an arc that covers over a thousand feet laterally between the time the ball leaves the boy's hand and the time he catches it again.  It really has nothing to do with Time Dilation, it only has to do with Relativity, and therefore it is the same as saying Time Dilation is just an optical illusion.  That is where everyone goes wrong!  They do not think of Time Dilation as a real phenomenon all by itself, they only think of it in terms of relativity! And, it was really bizarre when I watched Module #7, "Time Dilation - Experimental Evidence," in which Prof. Greene explains how Time Dilation has been confirmed by people carrying atomic clocks aboard airplanes, and he explained how muons exist longer when they are traveling faster.  Professor Greene makes absolutely no mention of gravitational time dilation.  Nor does he explain who was the "observer" when the atomic clocks were flown around the world.  He doesn't put 2 and 2 together. Module #9, which is titled "Time Dilation - Intuitive Explanation," appears to be Professor Greene's personal way of rationalizing how Time Dilation works.  It has nothing to do with reality and is totally laughable.  He has a change in the direction of motion causing the slowing of time. And Module #12 was the most absurd of all.  It's titled "The Twin Paradox," and it shows how preposterous the explanations can get when they try to rationalize and distort Time Dilation to make it fit mathematical equations.  Prof. Greene uses "fraternal twins," George and Gracie.  While George remains on Earth, Gracie goes off on a space ship to some nearby star and then returns.  That's simple enough, but Prof. Greene then explains how neither twin knows who is really moving.  He has Gracie arguing that her space ship is standing still while George and the planet Earth moved away from her, while George argues just the opposite.  Prof. Greene then explains that George is right because Gracie felt acceleration, which wouldn't happen if she had been standing still.  It's an absolutely silly explanation of Time Dilation.  In what universe would a space traveler think that she was standing still while the planet she just rocketed away from must be moving away from her and then somehow it reversed course to come back to her once again?  It's idiotic! It also shows how mathematicians do not care about logic or reasoning.  They only care about how the math works.  The math says that an astronaut can stand still while the Earth moves away from his rocket, therefore it must be possible.  At several points in the course, Professor Greene pauses to explain to his students that if what he is saying doesn't seem to make any sense, then they should take the version of his course that focuses on mathematics.  Yes, why not?  After all, in the world of mathematics "garbage in, garbage out" is totally acceptable if the equation looks clever.  Nothing needs to be logical or make sense if the mathematics work.  Science today is about mathematics, not about logic -- or science. Since I've completed the course, I could ask some "zinger" questions on the class discussion pages or try to ask Prof. Greene directly.  But, I think I'll delay that until I've found out how my "peer review" science journal paper and my "popular science" magazine article are received by the people that currently have them.  Besides, Prof. Greene is just teaching the same nonsense other physics professors are teaching.  Prof. Greene merely  put his course on the Internet where I could take it and view the lectures over again.  I should be grateful.  It taught me a great deal, but definitely not what Prof. Greene intended to teach.

Comments for Sunday, August 14, 2016, thru Saturday, August 20, 2016:

August 18, 2016 (C) - Okay.  While I was working out at the gym this afternoon, I thought of a good way to find the "right" peer reviewed scientific journal to submit my paper to.  When I checked that journal out after getting home, I found it was absolutely perfect.  So, I immediately submitted it.  Interestingly, it is not some obscure journal like General Relativity and Gravitation.  It is at least as well known as the last magazine I tried, probably a lot more so.

So, they now have the latest version of "Time Dilated Light" with all the improvements and just 8 pages in length, instead of the 11 pages I sent to the previous magazine.  And they provide a way to watch the progress of my paper through the "system," which is another indicator that it is a "peer reviewed" journal.

Fingers crossed.

August 18, 2016 (B) - Hmm.  I just received a response from the magazine to which I'd submitted my "Time Dilated Light" paper last month.  Here is what they wrote:

We appreciate receiving the article proposal that you sent to Physics Today, titled “Time-Dilated Light (A Constructive Theory of Relativity).”  A committee of our editors recently met to discuss several article proposals that we had received, including yours. The committee determined that it does not meet our editorial needs at this time.

As a magazine, we do not generally publish original research results.  We feel that such work is best evaluated through the peer-review system of archival research journals. You might consider pursuing that route.

Thank you for your understanding and for your interest in Physics Today.

So, they say nothing about the validity of my findings.  They just say I submitted it to the wrong place.  It's not the type of paper they publish.  Shit!!  I thought they were a peer reviewed journal.  Now it looks like I'll have to try figuring out which journal would be best for submission.  I'll try asking the physicist to whom I sent an email about it this morning.

August 18, 2016 (A) - I spent most of yesterday arguing with a mathematician on my "Time and Time Dilation" Facebook group.  I tried to get him to discuss our disagreements in a step by step manner to see if we could find the exact point where we disagree, but he would keep changing the subject or simply declare his opinions.  Then he said something I hadn't expected:
for the last last and last time. you cannot use logic here>
experiments and observations agree with the theoretical calculations. what else you want?
Wow!  I had found another mathematician who argues against using logic!  I was, of course reminded the argument from a different mathematician on the "Quantum Physics" Facebook group that I mentioned in my July 28 comment:
"Logic is nonsense.  The infinitesimal of logic is probably a point consisting of pure stupidity."

"I'm a physicist. I know nothing of logic.  I can calculate the position of Saturn using Newtonian gravitational equations, and get a craft there. I can calculate where a given lens will focus, and it does focus there. I have no way of calculating anything using logic. I'm not even sure what "logic" is!"
It appears what they are really saying is that they unshakably believe their math is correct, and they cannot be persuaded by any reasoning or logic, only by someone showing them where their math is incorrect. The problem is: Their math isn't incorrect.  Their understanding of what the math represents is incorrect.

The guy on my Facebook group kept arguing that I was claiming that Einstein was wrong, and I kept telling him I was arguing with his beliefs, not with Einstein.  He repeatedly declared that the whole universe would collapse if the speed of light was not a "universal constant."  Here's one quote:

"I don't know if the term 'constant' means anything to you.  It's like the constant PI(3,1435...), without it this universe will not exist."
I explained that it appeared that my paper primarily affects calculations for the expansion of the universe and probably calculations for Dark Energy.  It doesn't affect day-to-day physics.  Of course, I could be wrong about that.  It might affect areas of physics I know very little about, like Quantum Mechanics.

The conversation ended with the guy refusing to discuss anything with me any further.  But, he was back again this morning to argue that he is not being "closed minded" when he refuses to listen to "crap."

Meanwhile, I'm still waiting for some sign that the scientific journal that has my paper will actually comment on it, instead of just rejecting it for some format or procedural reason.   I'm seeing a surge in visitors to my interactive blog page on the topic.   I'm not sure what period of time "23 page views" represents, but I think I can safely assume it is better than no "page views," which was the situation until a couple days ago.  I'm also seeing an increase in the number of people who view my paper on "Time Dilated Light."  This is what the statistics look like this morning:

 viXra.org > Edward G. Lake

# Edward G. Lake

[3] viXra:1607.0289 replaced on 2016-08-08 09:46:18, (58 unique-IP downloads)

### Time Dilated Light

Authors: Edward G. Lake
Category: Astrophysics

[2] viXra:1602.0281 replaced on 2016-04-19 09:39:42, (97 unique-IP downloads)

### What is Time?

Authors: Edward G. Lake
Category: Astrophysics

[1] viXra:1505.0234 submitted on 2015-05-31 15:49:09, (79 unique-IP downloads)

### Time Dilation Re-visualized

Authors: Edward G. Lake
Category: Astrophysics

58 "unique-IP downloads" certainly isn't a large number for a paper that has been available since July 18, exactly one month.  But, when I see 5 people view it on Monday and I know 5 people viewed it the previous Monday, I think it's safe to assume that "unique-IP downloads" means they weren't the same 5 people.

I haven't contacted any physicists this week.  (Of course, within an hour of typing those words I sent an email to a physicist at a nearby university.)  I keep thinking that they might be on vacation, so I should wait until after Labor Day.  However, yesterday I did start a new thread on the "Astrophysics and Physics" Facebook group.  I used this cartoon I created:

So far, there have been no comments.  But it got two "likes," whatever that means.

August 17, 2016 - Facebook discussions about my Time Dilated Light theory seemed very interesting yesterday, but today ... not so much. The mathematician I'm arguing with has declared "if you ever calculate something going faster than light it only means one thing. you made a mistake."  He has resorted to arguing opinions instead of facts and evidence.

In a thread on my Facebook group "Time and Time Dilation," he argued that if a second changes length with altitude and velocity, then the length of a kilometer must also change in order for the speed of light to remain a "universal constant" at 299,792.458 kilometer per second.  I tried to get him to explain how the length of a kilometer can change with altitude, and he started talking about curved space and time being real and part of "spacetime." And, thus, he believes somehow a kilometer shortens because it is curved by spacetime.

I told him "spacetime" isn't real.  It's just a metaphor or a mathematical model.  Nothing actually bends.  I've stated that before in similar arguments, but this time I did Google searches to see if anyone agrees with me.  I found two places in agreement.  The first says,

Have you ever heard the term “spacetime” thrown around in various science articles around the web?  Just what exactly is “spacetime” and how does it relate to standard theories about space? I think Wiki manages a rather good description of this odd substance, so let’s start there.  Wiki defines spacetime as:

spacetime is any mathematical model that combines space and time into a single interwoven continuum. The spacetime of our universe is usually interpreted from a Euclidean space perspective, which regards space as consisting of three dimensions, and time as consisting of one dimension, the ‘fourth dimension’. By combining space and time into a single manifold called Minkowski space, physicists have significantly simplified a large number of physical theories, as well as described in a more uniform way the workings of the universe at both the supergalactic and subatomic levels…In cosmology, the concept of spacetime combines space and time to a single abstract universe.

From this summary we get the clear picture that spacetime is a purely mathematical construct used to build mathematical models.  In physical reality, there is no such thing as a substance called spacetime.  This important fact is often overlooked when scientific theories are presented to the public.

Unfortunately, the source is not exactly reliable, and there are other things in the article that I may not agree with.

Another source says,

1.- spacetime is just a mathematical model that's useful for predicting the interaction of mass-energy 2.- it has no independent existence of its own and without mass or energy there would be no meaningful concept of spacetime 3.- when we talk about spacetime being curved we are just talking about properties of the theoretical 4-dimensional manifold we use to determine what path light rays will follow, particles will fall etc.

1.- spacetime is just a mathematical model that's useful for predicting the interaction of mass-energy 2.- it has no independent existence of its own and without mass or energy there would be no meaningful concept of spacetime 3.- when we talk about spacetime being curved we are just talking about properties of the theoretical 4-dimensional manifold we use to determine what path light rays will follow, particles will fall etc.

1.- spacetime is just a mathematical model that's useful for predicting the interaction of mass-energy

2.- it has no independent existence of its own and without mass or energy there would be no meaningful concept of spacetime

3.- when we talk about spacetime being curved we are just talking about properties of the theoretical 4-dimensional manifold we use to determine what path light rays will follow, particles will fall etc.

However, that is just an opinion on a science blog.  Others on the blog agree, but there are mathematicians who do not agree.  So, it boils down to an argument over what the word "real" means.  I hate arguments over word definitions!

In another thread on my Facebook group, I was trying to calculate the difference in the speed of light between light emitted at the surface of the earth and light emitted 10 meters above the surface.  Back on August 3, someone had provided a link to a gravitational time dilation calculator program which I've been trying to understand ever since.  Yesterday, I briefly thought I was understanding it.

The calculator is HERE.  Unfortunately, there do not seem to be any explanations or instructions to go with it.  What is the difference between "time in rest frame" and "time seen by stationary observer"?  The calculator supposedly calculates the difference, but it's the difference between what and what?  To me, "time in rest frame" and "time seen by stationary observer" are the same thing.  "Rest" = "stationary."

And what does "radius" signify?  I assumed it represented the surface of the Earth as zero so I could calculate the length of a second above or below the surface by plunking in a positive or negative number.  Since I was looking for the length of a second 10 meters above the surface, I replaced "12 km" with "-.01 km", and it gave me a "time seen by stationary observer" of 0.999782 seconds.  That looked like it might be a meaningful number, but then someone else on the group said they plunked in 22 km (which was assumed to represent 22 kilometers below the Earth's surface), and they got "Radius lies within the Schwarzchild radius" as the answer.  So, the calculator wasn't calculating what we wanted to calculate.

In my paper on "Time Dilated Light," I provide velocity time dilation numbers for how fast light would travel if emitted from an object moving at 10% of the speed of light, and I just say that similar calculations can be done for gravitational time dilation.  I would have liked to provide some actual calculated numbers for gravitational time dilation, but it seems any calculations would involve an imaginary point 6,353 kilometers from the center of the Earth, and then some imaginary point higher than that.  Since the Earth is not a perfect sphere, and 6,353 km probably represents some point above the surface at the poles and below the surface at the equator.  It seems that the only way to have truly meaningful numbers is to put an atomic clock on some surface and another 10 meters above that surface, as I describe in the latest version of my paper, then measure the speed of light at those two points.

It's difficult to imagine why no one has done that.

August 16, 2016 - This morning, someone brought to my attention a conspiracy theory that I don't recall ever hearing about before (even though I tracked conspiracy theories for over a decade following 9/11), but which is apparently prevalent enough for scientists to take action to debunk the theory.  The email I received contained a link to a New York Times article from yesterday titled "Scientists Just Say No to ‘Chemtrails’ Conspiracy Theory."  The article begins with this:

Conspiracy theories can be stubborn, particularly in the echo chamber of the internet.

One persistent belief in some quarters is that the government — or business, perhaps — is deploying a fleet of jet aircraft to spray chemicals into the sky to control the population, food supply or other things.

As evidence, they point to what they call “chemtrails,” which are more commonly known as contrails, or condensation trails, produced at high altitudes as water vapor in jet engine exhaust condenses and freezes.

The paper the scientists produced to debunk the conspiracy theory can be viewed by clicking HERE.  (Interestingly, it is published in an "open access" journal, which confirms that there is a definite value to such journals.)

The email I received also contained a link to a conspiracy theorist web site.  Just click HERE to view it.

What the email and research into that conspiracy theory did for me was cause me to break focus for awhile, i.e., to stop thinking about Time Dilated Light and to think about something else.  Yesterday and this morning, I've been arguing with a mathematician on my own Facebook group "Time and Time Dilation."  Click HERE to go to the specific discussion thread.  It looks like it's going to be another thread I'll have to make a copy of and save for posterity.  It's a continuation of a thread HERE that was started on July 11, the day I published the first version of "Time Dilated Light."

When scientists work on a project, they save all their notes and documents so they prove and show how and when they came up with their findings -- if necessary.  My "findings" about Time Dilated Light resulted mostly from arguments on Facebook.  Looking over some of them, it's like looking at a trial transcript.  They show how I started by thinking one thing and then realizing I was wrong and changing my mind.  (Example, I first thought that time dilated light from stars would be traveling faster than light is measured here on Earth.  Then I realized it would be traveling slower.)  The discussions also show how I produced my first paper on "Time Dilated Light" and then almost immediately withdrew it because I learned something new that I thought was important and disproved something I had written.  Then I realized the new information was NOT important.  But, it was too late.  The paper was already withdrawn.  So, I had to publish version #2 as a totally new paper.

If I had the time, I could probably track down the discussions from a couple years ago which first caused me to think about Time Dilation and how to stop people from constantly talking about imaginary space ships in an imaginary universe and to try to get them to talk about REAL demonstrations of REAL time dilation in our REAL world.  Those discussions would really show how messy things were as I looked for what was really happening in a world where people just want to talk about theoretical happenings in an imaginary universe.  Those discussions with anti-science theorists may be of no interest to anyone else, but I find them fascinating.  And they were the start of it all.

August 15, 2016 - I awoke this morning with the realization that I've been going about my "discussions" with physicists and mathematicians the wrong way.  I've been going straight to the final argument, when I should have started with the first point of contention.  It's the basic logic for resolving arguments: Break the argument down into pieces, and discuss each piece to see where the disagreement appears.  When you find a specific disagreement, define it and see if that one specific disagreement can be resolved.  If it can be resolved, then go on to the next specific disagreement, and then the next, and the next, instead of arguing everything all at once.  If it can't be resolved, figure out why and see if agreement can be reached on why there can be no agreement.

I should begin by asking if they accept Einstein's theories about Time Dilation as being real, and if they know that those theories have been repeatedly confirmed.

There's no point in continuing with any discussion if they do not accept Time Dilation as being real.  In my discussions with them, they are always vague and evasive on the subject, only accepting that in one "frame of reference" time will "appear" to pass at one rate while in another "frame of reference" time will "appear" to pass at a different rate.  It seems they cannot accept that anyone can see both "frames of reference" at the same time.  It seems such a situation cannot be defined as a mathematical equation, therefore it they feel it is not possible.

If we cannot get past that first step, there is no point in going to the next step, which would be to see if they can accept that, when time runs faster at the top of a mountain than it does at the bottom of the mountain, that means that a second is shorter at the top of the mountain than it is at the bottom of the mountain.  They have to understand and accept that before we can move on to the third step.  If they somehow believe that a "second" is defined by their personal wrist watch and not by any theory from Albert Einstein or by any scientific tests, then there is no point in continuing on to the third step.

The third step is to see if they can answer this question:  If a second is shorter at the top of a mountain than at the bottom of the mountain, which "second" do you use when measuring the speed of light in kilometers per second?

I see that Sabine Hossenfelder did indeed ignore my questions and delete them.  On her blog this morning, she started a new thread titled "The Philosophy of Modern Cosmology," which seems to offer an opening for a pointed question about Time Dilation.  This time, if I post there, I'll save a copy of what I posted, so if she ignores it and just deletes it, I'll have a copy of what she deleted.  I failed to make a copy of the previous posts I made there.

Live and learn.

August 14, 2016 - Last week was another week mostly spent waiting for some physicist or astrophysicist somewhere to discuss Time Dilated Light with me.  Finally, yesterday, I received an email from one of the world's top astrophysicists.  On August 9, I had emailed him to ask this question:
Velocity and gravitational Time Dilation have also been demonstrated with GPS satellites. So, we know time dilation is "real," not just some mathematical curiosity. A second is actually longer when you are moving than when stationary, and a second is actually shorter at the top of a mountain than at the bottom of the mountain.

My question: Won't light travel faster at the top of the mountain than at the bottom of the mountain, since light is measured as speed per second, and a second is shorter at the top of the mountain?
The full answer I received yesterday was as follows:
No. Light travels at precisely the same speed everywhere.
Unfortunately I am so overwhelmed that I’m not able to
So, his answer is just a robot's answer: "Light travels at precisely the same speed everywhere."  He doesn't address the fact that the length of a second is different virtually everywhere.  And therefore, if you are measuring "speed per second" anywhere, the speed of light must be different virtually everywhere.
The answer is an opinion, not a fact, and it cuts off any discussion.  I suspect it was sent by one of his assistants.  I received the same kind of "robot" answer to a different question I asked about a year ago.

Yes, mathematics is an entirely self-referential language. That’s the very reason why it’s so useful. Complaining that math isn’t about some thing is like complaining that paint isn’t an image – and even [commentor Andrew] Hacker concedes that math can be used to describe much of the world. For most scientists the discussion stops at this point. The verdict in my filter bubble in unanimous: mathematics is the language of nature, and if schools teach one thing, that’s what they should teach.
and
But most importantly, you need math to understand what it even means to understand. The only real truths are mathematical truths, and so proving theorems is the only way to learn how to lead watertight arguments. That doesn’t mean that math teaches you how to lead successful arguments, in the sense of convincing someone. But it teaches you how to lead correct arguments. And that skill should be worth something, even if Hacker might complain that the arguments are about nothing.
Nevertheless, I ended up posting a comment to her most recent blog thread titled "The Unbearable Lightness of Philosophy."  As of this morning, I see she has let through a bunch of comments that were posted after I posted my comment.  She may be pondering my comment, but it seems more likely that she just deleted it because she didn't have the time to think about a response.  I'll keep checking for a day or two to see if she does let my comment through and respond to it.

While looking for examples of screwball arguments from mathematicians, I found a paper titled "The Irksomeness Of Einstein’s Special Theory Of relativity" and an article titled "Einstein’s Mistaken Time Dilation Prediction."  The article says,
The purpose of this short note is to expand upon a conclusion I discussed in my paper on the Irksomeness of Einstein’s Special Theory Of Relativity . There it was pointed out that the famous prediction made by Einstein in his 1905 paper was false. Einstein said that a clock placed at the equator should run more slowly than an identical one located at one of the poles of the earth. Obviously it was implicitly assumed that the earth’s rotation would produce a relative motion between the clocks that could be used to test the prediction. As was pointed out in that paper, there is no relative motion at all, so the prediction is a false one.
Evidently, like so many mathematicians I've encountered, the author cannot visualize time dilation in two "frames of reference" that can be seen by one "observer."  The two clocks are moving relative to the Earth spinning on its axis, not relative to one another.  He evidently cannot convert that basic situation to a mathematical equation.  It's the same problem I've been having with physicists and mathematicians who are unable to comprehend one "observer" watching time pass at different rates when there are two clocks at different heights relative to the center of the Earth.  They cannot make a mathematical equation out of that, so they believe it is impossible.

Every day in every way I become more and more certain that my theory of "Time Dilated Light" is correct.  However, sometimes my confidence gets a jolt when I find something that seems to explain time dilation issues in a different way, and I have to ask myself: Does this affect my theory?   For example, while looking for the papers I recalled reading about Einstein's theory being false, I found this question and answer on Quora.com:
Does time run slower on the equator than at the poles?

There is a effect from things whizzing in circles because of the earth's rotation, and although it's quite small, of order 1.4E-11, it's well within the precision of modern atomic clocks.

Unfortunately you can't detect it by comparing a clock at the equator to a clock at one at the poles because there's an effect of exactly the same size but opposite sign due to the fact that the earth is distorted into an Oblate spheroid due to centrifugal force and the equator is 22 km further from the centre of the earth than the poles. That is, the poles are lower in the earth's gravitational potential and so are subject to Gravitational time dilation. (It's not a coincidence that this happens - in the frame rotating with the earth, centrifugal force is equivalent to gravity according to the Equivalence principle and has the same effect on clocks. And the earth, being only semi-solid, sloshes around until the combined effective gravitational+centrifugal potential is even over the surface.)
The problem is: At first I couldn't tell if the answer really addressed the issue of velocity time dilation.  It seemed to say that the gravitational time dilation is offset by centrifugal force.  Yet, the question is about velocity time dilation.  I finally came to the conclusion that he's saying that gravitational time dilation is the same at the equator as it is a the poles because of centrifugal forces, and he simply didn't understand that the question was actually about velocity time dilation, not about gravitational time dilation.

So, unless I discover that I'm misunderstanding something, I'll leave my paper the way it is until I see some clear reason to change it.

One last comment for today:  Yesterday, I received an email from Stephen J. Crothers.  The email contained nothing but this statement: "The mathematical foundations of LIGO are fatally flawed" and a link to his latest paper which attacks the LIGO gravitational wave findings.  It's the first time he's ever emailed me.  Our only previous contact was in arguments on various "Rational Science" Facebook groups where I shot down his unscientific beliefs.  He must have somehow tracked down my newsguy email address.  What's most interesting about that is that I am just one of about 50 people to whom he sent the email.  He also sent the email to a bunch of people at the University of Amsterdam and Leiden University in the Netherlands, another bunch of people at the Argonne National Laboratory, Fermilab, and Pacific Northwest National Laboratory, and another big bunch of people at the University of Chicago.  And then there is me and one other person without such prestigious email addresses.  I wonder what the other guy did to get such attention.

Glancing through the 32 page paper, I see a lot of mathematics.  LIGO isn't something I'm interested in at the moment, so I'll have to do as others are doing to me, put off reading the paper until I get some free time.

Arguing with mathematicians is very much like arguing with conspiracy theorists and True Believers.  They believe they have the "true" answers to everything, and their faith in their deductive ability seems unshakable.  With mathematicians, it is math that they believe in, not some nutty personal theory they worked out.  I find the psychology of it absolutely fascinating.  I'm tracking down Facebook threads where I argued with mathematicians while developing my theory of Time Dilated Light.  I want to study them to see if I can find some way to get through their fixed beliefs.  If I can, maybe I'll start some new arguments.   I could go on and on with examples of such arguments, but I think I'll save them for some later comment.  Or maybe someday I'll put them in a book.